Article | 'Japan Mehs Virtua Fighter 5. NO ONLINE = NO BUY?'

Online isn't a big deal to me.I have lots of friends to play versus mode against.......beyondgamez

When you grow up and/or graduate from college, you'll learn that having friends over all the time is no longer a reality.

[QUOTE="jackassultima"] The point is that this kind of game with such fast gameplay cannot currently be made online capable. You can go for watered down slower fighting games which have online because online issues make far less of an impact, but in the end they are just worse fighting games IMO. I'd rather have my mates round my house playing VF5 and have an awesome single player experience than compromise it so I can play some nobodies online.LosDaddie

Awesome single player? :lol:

Single player is just practice for multiplayer. VF5 was built for multiplayer / tourneys.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="SockPuppetHyren"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

[QUOTE="jackassultima"] The point is that this kind of game with such fast gameplay cannot currently be made online capable. You can go for watered down slower fighting games which have online because online issues make far less of an impact, but in the end they are just worse fighting games IMO. I'd rather have my mates round my house playing VF5 and have an awesome single player experience than compromise it so I can play some nobodies online.LosDaddie

Awesome single player? :lol:

Single player is just practice for multiplayer. VF5 was built for multiplayer / tourneys.

Agreed.

Humans > CPU.

There simply is nothing better than having a real human(s) to play against. People need to stop being Sega apologists.

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]At least they have Online in the arcades. What do I get. A CPU who does the same damn cheap move, and I punish the hell out of it. No ones is on my level in fighters. I drive 20 miles to my nearest Aracade, and it doesn't even have VF, Tekken, or SF in it (I go for the cotton candy). Tournaments are held like once every 2 months. Simple saying we need online here more than the Japanese.SockPuppetHyren

There's no ownage here.... Because online isn't a big factor for Japanese gamers in the first place. And once the sales numbers come in, I'm sure we'll see that the game is selling relatively well for the userbase in Japan.

The problem is that the userbase isn't nearly as large as Sony or Sega would like it to be at this point. No VF fan 'needs' an online mode like lem fanboys. VF is the greatest fighting franchise since street fighter all on its own.

[QUOTE="SockPuppetHyren"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="SockPuppetHyren"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="jackassultima"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="jackassultima"]But in the west very few people go to arcades any more, so western sales will not be impacted by this problem. They can't put online in because they've already said that the lag and latency issues across the internet would render it practically unplayable.Dreams-Visions

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="SockPuppetHyren"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="SockPuppetHyren"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="jackassultima"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="jackassultima"]But in the west very few people go to arcades any more, so western sales will not be impacted by this problem. They can't put online in because they've already said that the lag and latency issues across the internet would render it practically unplayable.SockPuppetHyren

[QUOTE="SockPuppetHyren"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]At least they have Online in the arcades. What do I get. A CPU who does the same damn cheap move, and I punish the hell out of it. No ones is on my level in fighters. I drive 20 miles to my nearest Aracade, and it doesn't even have VF, Tekken, or SF in it (I go for the cotton candy). Tournaments are held like once every 2 months. Simple saying we need online here more than the Japanese.shungokustasu

[QUOTE="SockPuppetHyren"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="SockPuppetHyren"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="SockPuppetHyren"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="jackassultima"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="jackassultima"]But in the west very few people go to arcades any more, so western sales will not be impacted by this problem. They can't put online in because they've already said that the lag and latency issues across the internet would render it practically unplayable.Dreams-Visions

I'd be thrilled if this game was online on 360. That would be the dealbreaker and assure I purchase it. Otherwise I'm still very much up in the air whether i will or not, as i dont have good local competitionosusfaith

[QUOTE="osusfaith"]I'd be thrilled if this game was online on 360. That would be the dealbreaker and assure I purchase it. Otherwise I'm still very much up in the air whether i will or not, as i dont have good local competitionDreams-Visions

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="osusfaith"]I'd be thrilled if this game was online on 360. That would be the dealbreaker and assure I purchase it. Otherwise I'm still very much up in the air whether i will or not, as i dont have good local competitionSockPuppetHyren

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="osusfaith"]I'd be thrilled if this game was online on 360. That would be the dealbreaker and assure I purchase it. Otherwise I'm still very much up in the air whether i will or not, as i dont have good local competitionSockPuppetHyren

I think the problem with lems is that most of the game we've had on xbox & 360 are pretty stale without being able to play on Live... without any multiplayer, a lot of the games really just suck.

Well, the other two systems aren't like that. And VF was really made for the Playstation. It's an awesome game in its own right and really doesn't need online to succeed. I've bought the last two versions that came out and did not miss online one bit.

The other thing to consider is that even of the Microsoft community, it's estimated that only 40% subscribe and play online. The demand for online is not as big as you think just because YOU enjoy it. And the AI in VF is better than most humans that I've scrubbed in the game.

I'll still play friends whenever I the boys come over... But I'd much rather have the single player & quest modes. For me, the quest mode is what made the game so entertaining in the first place.

[QUOTE="SockPuppetHyren"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="osusfaith"]I'd be thrilled if this game was online on 360. That would be the dealbreaker and assure I purchase it. Otherwise I'm still very much up in the air whether i will or not, as i dont have good local competitionDreams-Visions

Poeple, the Wii is killing the PS3 in Japan. Alot of them still don't own a PS3 yet. The release of this game is not going to make them go out and buy one either. Arcades are still booming over there. Online game playwon't happen due to lag because as mentioned before all of the frames of animation need to be there. This game like Tekken is frame-dependant. Total strategies are made off of the frame count of moves. Adding lag to the game will destroy that. Also VF5 and Tekken are seriously hard core games and Sega knows that. Adding online will affect the integrity of the fighting system. I would like for it to be online, but online if it's lag free, which simply isn't possible at the moment. dcoope3

I think the problem with lems is that most of the game we've had on xbox & 360 are pretty stale without being able to play on Live... without any multiplayer, a lot of the games really just suck.

Sgt_Hale

Is that English?

Only about 6,300 sales. Blue Dragon, Lost Planet, and Gears of War couldnt save Xbox 360 from flopping in Japan. Meanwhile Playstation 3 amazingly outsold Playstation 2 for the 2nd time even though there is hardly any games out for the Japanese Market to eat up. Playstation 3 is outselling Xbox 360 3 to 1 and so far it looks like a repeat of last gen. Xbox 360 is dead in Japan. Microsoft should pack its bags and sell 360's in Alaska, they might not overheat there as much. R.I.P.nanomecha4

If Online junkies stoptalking out of thier asses first... Really, I agree also, the Humans>AI. BUT, if bringing a game online will comprimise the gameplay I love so much, I'd rather wait.SockPuppetHyren

I'd rather Sega wait 'til they can get the net coding right.

[QUOTE="nanomecha4"]Only about 6,300 sales. Blue Dragon, Lost Planet, and Gears of War couldnt save Xbox 360 from flopping in Japan. Meanwhile Playstation 3 amazingly outsold Playstation 2 for the 2nd time even though there is hardly any games out for the Japanese Market to eat up. Playstation 3 is outselling Xbox 360 3 to 1 and so far it looks like a repeat of last gen. Xbox 360 is dead in Japan. Microsoft should pack its bags and sell 360's in Alaska, they might not overheat there as much. R.I.P.Riverwolf007

[QUOTE="SockPuppetHyren"] If Online junkies stoptalking out of thier asses first... Really, I agree also, the Humans>AI. BUT, if bringing a game online will comprimise the gameplay I love so much, I'd rather wait.LosDaddie

I'd rather Sega wait 'til they can get the net coding right.

[QUOTE="nanomecha4"]Only about 6,300 sales. Blue Dragon, Lost Planet, and Gears of War couldnt save Xbox 360 from flopping in Japan. Meanwhile Playstation 3 amazingly outsold Playstation 2 for the 2nd time even though there is hardly any games out for the Japanese Market to eat up. Playstation 3 is outselling Xbox 360 3 to 1 and so far it looks like a repeat of last gen. Xbox 360 is dead in Japan. Microsoft should pack its bags and sell 360's in Alaska, they might not overheat there as much. R.I.P.Riverwolf007

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

[QUOTE="SockPuppetHyren"] If Online junkies stoptalking out of thier asses first... Really, I agree also, the Humans>AI. BUT, if bringing a game online will comprimise the gameplay I love so much, I'd rather wait.SockPuppetHyren

I'd rather Sega wait 'til they can get the net coding right.

Or Sega could hire some experts and get the game online by November.

I thought this would be THE GAME to stimulate sales again.DaysAirlines

[QUOTE="SockPuppetHyren"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

[QUOTE="SockPuppetHyren"] If Online junkies stoptalking out of thier asses first... Really, I agree also, the Humans>AI. BUT, if bringing a game online will comprimise the gameplay I love so much, I'd rather wait.LosDaddie

I'd rather Sega wait 'til they can get the net coding right.

Or Sega could hire some experts and get the game online by November.

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"]I thought this would be THE GAME to stimulate sales again.SockPuppetHyren

Not true.

I want VF5 online. Not just online.

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="SockPuppetHyren"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

[QUOTE="SockPuppetHyren"] If Online junkies stoptalking out of thier asses first... Really, I agree also, the Humans>AI. BUT, if bringing a game online will comprimise the gameplay I love so much, I'd rather wait.SockPuppetHyren

I'd rather Sega wait 'til they can get the net coding right.

Or Sega could hire some experts and get the game online by November.

Pioneer =/= Expert

[QUOTE="SockPuppetHyren"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="SockPuppetHyren"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

[QUOTE="SockPuppetHyren"] If Online junkies stoptalking out of thier asses first... Really, I agree also, the Humans>AI. BUT, if bringing a game online will comprimise the gameplay I love so much, I'd rather wait.LosDaddie

I'd rather Sega wait 'til they can get the net coding right.

Or Sega could hire some experts and get the game online by November.

Pioneer =/= Expert

Also, I find it hard you want VF from the "No online = No Buy" style of opinion you have...SockPuppetHyren

Believe what you want. It doesn't matter either way.

I just don't see myself wasting money on a multiplayer game without online.

http://www.play-asia.com/SOap-23-83-5vmf-49-en-15-Virtua+Fighter+5-84-p.htmliam_suede

[QUOTE="SockPuppetHyren"] Also, I find it hard you want VF from the "No online = No Buy" style of opinion you have...LosDaddie

Believe what you want. It doesn't matter either way.

I just don't see myself wasting money on a multiplayer game without online.

Japanese gamers are used to crap. They will buy any generic RPG or any generic game that is part of their favorite franchise. In fact, they will buy every reissue of Dynasty Warriors.Oemenia

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"]I thought this would be THE GAME to stimulate sales again.SockPuppetHyren

[QUOTE="iam_suede"]http://www.play-asia.com/SOap-23-83-5vmf-49-en-15-Virtua+Fighter+5-84-p.htmlDaysAirlines

Only six lay down buttons? No thanx I stick with my Hori 2.shungokustasu

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"]Only six lay down buttons? No thanx I stick with my Hori 2.DaysAirlines